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Is it permisible For God to be God?
Tom,
There are different degrees of authority and I am sure you know of the many instances where women were used to lead men and instruct men through out the Bible, instances in which women were noted as and called as judges, deacons, prophets, teachers and disciples. Here are a few scriptures to refresh your memory and to stir up your pure mind.
(Judges 4: 4-5; 5:7); (Ro 16 Paul’s shout outs to fellow ministers in the gospel); (Luke 2: 36-38); (Acts1); Paul recognized Timothy’s mother and grandmother because of the good job they had done teaching Timothy and preparing him for the ministry.
When the Holy Ghost came on the disciples it fell on the women and on the men and they all went out and began to minister and to be Jesus’ witnesses. Paul’s interjections came later as a response to issues in the church at that time, and I don’t think the intention of those statements were ever intended to squash the ministry of women in the church as they have been used to do.
God continues to call women to ministry every day; He is the same yesterday today and forever. If that is true then who are we to try to limit Him and to put His will in a box? Let's quit stumbling over the same old stumbling blocks. Is it alright for God to be God; if so then He can use whom ever He chooses to do what ever He wants them to do.
Submitted by: Darlene McKnight
Location: Weed
Date Added: 2008-05-28
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women/men relationship
Where in the scripture does it say women are to have authority over men? I understand where you're coming from and many times women are running the praise and worship ministry. I still don't see anywhere in scripture that puts a women over a man with authority.
Submitted by: Tom
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Date Added: 2007-12-14
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Boundaries and Focus Important
Maintaining healthy relational boundaries and focus on worship are very important for a praise team comprised of male and female members.Also, please keep in mind that not everyone subscribes to the "women should submit to men" thing. Paul writes very clearly that "In Christ there is no Jew nor Greek, male nor female, slave nor free," because we are all one in Christ. There is obviously a leader, but all are ministers serving the Lord together. If an unhealthy attraction develops, inappropriate comments occur, etc., then the leaders need to go and speak to that person and the person whom it happened to separately. If it is not a serious or repeated occurrence, then reinforcing boundaries may be sufficient. If it is an unhealthy pattern, then disciplinary action such as suspension or removal from the team may be needed. Above all, lift it all up in prayer- as Paul wrote on another occasion "pray unceasingly..." Grace and Peace in the Lord, John
Submitted by: John
Location: Philly, PA
Date Added: 2006-01-10
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Flirtatious Women in Ministry
The points provided are well-grounded but one more perspective, I believe, is necessary. The scriptures say that the older women are to teach the younger. This woman, who is flirtatious, is clueless that she's being watched and people KNOW what she's doing. Which means that regardless of her chronological age, she's needs teaching and growth in this area. I'm a minister in the dance/drama. God taught me several years ago that when I minister with a male, particularly if God has given me a vision for a piece and has told me who to cast. He taught that if the brother was married, to approach his wife first, to honor their union and...honor the fact that she's his covering. If the brother is single, like myself, I always keep proper boundaries and remain mindful that it is an area where a door can be opened. I NEVER rehearse or be alone with my brother, bearing in mind at all times...this is my brother.
Submitted by: Stine McDonald
Location: los angeles, Ca
Date Added: 2006-01-02
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Working As you Worship
I realized being a worship-leader you are not just leading the congregation to worship God; but you are also called to lead the music group.In order to lead the congregation we make sure that we are leading our group well. Different personalities that you have to dealth with. We at times fall into thinking that it is enough to sing or play our instrument as long as we do our part but it wasn't enough. You really have to build a good relationship with the team. Especially with men whom at times they think they are more capable than you are or they are being threaten that you overpower them. It's important that you show respect and you value his opinion and suggestion. Sincerity play a role with this. They have to understand that it is God who called you in that position for a time because they may have the same vision like yours in the music ministry.We women should also be careful in relating to men whom we are comfortable to work with in the Ministry. We have to guard each other. We have to keep the integrity of our heart. In doing this we have to evaluate our motives or ask someone to do it for us. Long hours talking to the phone,extended gimmicks, coffee etc. may lead lead us to something else. Remember we are minister and should act above reproach, m not saying this legalistically but we really need to model as good example to people. Set boundaries, make a goal to be a blessing and not a hindrance for our co- workers in the ministry.
It's hard work, at times you fail but keep on going, keep doing what God wants you to do in the ministry. The bible says,"Whether you eat or drink do it for the glory of God". In doing this as you work out your relationship with them you are Worshipping Him!!
Submitted by: Joy Persincula
Location: San Juan Manila Philippines
Date Added: 2004-06-22
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rejoicing?
I am amazed at what lengths people will go to justify their apostate positions. Up until the early 1900's, there was no question to what Gods word instructed...for scripture is abundantly clear.Now those who vowed never to surcumb to the apostate spirit that they saw infiltrating the churches...have embraced the folly themselves. You know and I know what Gods word says about women teaching or having authority over men, it's not like it's coded or in a parable.I admit it's extremely difficult to stand against the tide of rebellion and itching ears as we have in these last days, but not impossible. The faithful and steadfast will see God,not the cowardly or compromising...7000 didn't bend a knee to Baal and It feels like that number may be close to how many won't crumble by the end of this age. Hope your one of them. Hardpressed and looking for Christ.
Submitted by: Daniel Lingner
Location: Cocoa, FL
Date Added: 2004-05-22
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Flirtatious Women in Ministry
I would like to thank Sylvia for her wonderful words of encouragement. Right now here is my situation. My husband is in the church band, it consists of 6 men and one women. This woman takes advantage of this position and often flirts with the male members including my husband. Every Sunday and or even services during the week, after it is over she always finds herself in my husband's face, as he is putting away his equipment,leaning over him as he is sitting at the keyboard, she has even rubbed her hands in head, she has given him a Christmas gift(just an ornament) but it was not to our family and was given not in my presence. She has asked him and another male member to come to a recital that she was playing in outside the church. Did not ask both of us to attend. Most recently, my husband and I were previewing a church website that we developed with our pastor. Well she was there(along with her husband). The pastor and my husband were sitting on a couch she says "oh I want to see it too" and so she comes in between my husband and the pastor, squeezing herself on the couch and wiggling her hips as she was fitting into the space, then as she sits down she places her hand on his my husband's knee the entire time. Now I understand that they have much in common because of the music, but what I don't understand is why there can never be a service where she just says "hello" and moves on. Now here husband is always there so my husband has concluded that since her husband is there it is not a problem. He feels like because she approaches all the men in the band in this fashion that this is "just who she is" so that is ok. I not asked him not to speak to her, I have not asked him to be rude to her or unChristian. I have merely asked him to limit the conversation. I have asked him to control the situation. Well he is not happy with that. He is limiting the conversations but he is bringing it up and sort of fussing about it. It seems that he wants to be part of the gang. It seems he is saying "If she is doing it to everyone else then what can be the harm"? He says he is not interested in her and when she comes up to him it is only to talk about the music. Then my question is this they have band rehearsal every Monday, why can't they talk about music then. Does every time they are in each other's presence, whether in church or out they have to converse? My husband insists that he doesn't see her doing anything wrong. I just want to know if I am off base in this.
Submitted by: Many questions
Location: washington, dc
Date Added: 2004-05-21
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Worship
It's interesting to know the different views of readers about How to worship the Lord with sincerity and submission towards a Pastor or Praise and worship leader rather it be a male or female. However, we all must realize that in this life we should always recognize the fact if there's no peace when we worship the Lord the spirit of truth within us will determine we are out of boundary. We must always stand on guard even if it's a brother in the Lord, the devil is out there to bring the body of christ in any way it can to bring destruction in the ministry. Be on a watch at all times.
Submitted by: Rachel
Location: Pago Pago, American Samoa
Date Added: 2004-05-20
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