Using Drum Shields In Worship - User Opinions
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Communication Barriers During Live Praise and Worship
We use a drum shield on our Worship Center platform - although not the ClearSonic Manufacturing brand you mentioned. (Sorry.) As you noted in your article, there are several advantages and disadvantages to using a drum shield. I am one of the Worship Leaders at the church. When I lead, it is not uncommon for us to deviate from our planned or rehearsed play list. With the drum shield in place, communication with the drummer becomes extremely difficult. We either have to communicate by sign language or he has to try and read my lips to get instructions on the fly. We use both Avioms and Wireless In-ears as monitors. I've considered setting up a separate "talk-only-to-the-man-behind-the-Plexiglas-screen" microphone so I can communicate clearly with the drummer. Haven't tried that yet, though. Anyhow, drum shields can be great but they do have certain drawbacks from a platform perspective. Thanks for your article and a chance to respond. David Guion one24worship.com
Submitted by: David Guion
Location: San Antonio, Texas
Date Added: 2008-02-23
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Drums in worship
I play drums for Love & Truth Ministries in Jackson, Tn. I am completely enclosed in front by the clearsonic panels. On the back, top and sides by absobent panels. We use the Aviom monitor mix, and I also use the Bose Quiet Comfort headphones. This is an awesome set up. I can control my own monitor mix without the actual drums overpowering me in the booth. We also have an ambient mic mounted from the ceiling which gives a great live sound via the headset. All this combined allows the drummer to play more dynamically, and focus on worship, not just trying to play quiet, and hope no one complains
Submitted by: Richard Smith
Location: Jackson, Tn
Date Added: 2007-03-07
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Drums!
I have a drummer, who when asked to play softer takes offense and plays louder. I have recenlty purchased a 5 panel drum shield. I am hoping this helps....
Submitted by: Eric
Location: Columbus
Date Added: 2005-05-27
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Drum shields
I submitted a comment back on Feb or 2003 saying I was all in favor of getting drum shields. I am not a loud player, and about 2 years ago, I added mikes to my kit to enhance my live mix. We since have added a second drummer, who at first was WAY louder than I was or the room could handle, even when unmiked. Well, since then my church 'suprised' the drummers with a 'gift' of electronic drums. This was to control the live stage and audience volume of the drums. Now if the electronics were Roland V set, I would be fine with it, but it is a low end used Yamaha DTX kit for $750. The congregation hates them, the drummers hate them, the sound team cannot get a decent live sound from them, the leaders even say the acoustic set looks and sounds better. But those leaders have decided that was the electronics are the way to go.
The solution is drum shields. Back in February a set of shields to enclose my kit and the percussion would cost $500. SInce then the price of shields are nearly half what they were.
The argument that it muddles the sound is unfounded, since a good miking will send a controlable mix to the audience. The arguemnt that it isolates the drummer is false since along with a proper miking comes a controlled monitor mix of the other members of the worship team.
The drummer can play with the intensity needed to make the drums sound good without affecting the outside 'world' and the 'outside' world can be delivered to the drummer in a controlled manner.
Playing electronic drums is like painting by number, the resulting product may appear to be the same, but the creativite skill is all but gone.
Give me acoustics and a drum shield anyday!
Submitted by: Dan
Location: Bismarck, ND
Date Added: 2004-01-18
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Shields are as important as mikes for recording
Let me start by saying, I own drum shields, I use them in my church, and I love them. Our worship team does a lot of digital recording for worship CDs. Before I had the shields, our sound engineer had me doing a bunch of weird things with drum placements, and some really ugly sound isolation stuff. It all worked and sounded good, but we decided to try shields. They instantly solved our isolation problems, allowing me to be with the band. We were able to get a much better sound with fewer mikes, and, my drums went from sounding good, to sounding outstanding! If you are recording or mikeing your kit, you have to buy shields. They are worth every penny. Just a side note; Playing behind the shield takes some getting used to. The volume can be mind numbing!
Submitted by: chris
Location: Roseburg OR
Date Added: 2003-02-12
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Drums shields
I play drums and congas in a church that has a seating capacity of 650 people. I used to try to play soft enough so I did't affect the electronic instruments. I even placed my drums at the opposite end of the stage away from the singers so their mics didn't pick up my playing. A professional told me I needed to play harder. This way the sounds from the drums are distinct, not muted or half baked. The harder you play a drum or a cymbal the better it sounds.
I am completely micked (11 mikes) but I still pull back on my playing as not to overpower the others. I am seriously considering 4' wide X 10' wide high drum shields so I can play with conviction and not half heartedly, and not blow everyone away. I will adjust my mix to the room.
Submitted by: Dan
Location: Bismarck, ND
Date Added: 2003-02-05
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New setting
I personally support the idea of "drum shields". But in most cases it will be needed for the "undiciplined drummer".But even the most diciplined drummers need a drum shield for the sake of a good worship recording.The dominating drummer that must always play ruins the flow of worship.So that is why I agree with drum shields,worship can become more intimate while blocking out certain unwanted sounds.
Submitted by: Timoteo Alonso
Location: Bryan,Tx.
Date Added: 2003-01-23
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Why can't we all just get along! ;-) tee-hee
I've been playing drums in churches around our wonderful nation since 1969... (Whew, coming up on 34 years now!) and have had the pleasure of playing in literally every type of room imaginable. From the Crystal Cathedral in CA to a room for 75 people in TN. Every venue brings it's own acoustic challenges AND benefits. Including my own church- Phoenix First Assembly- Under the wise Leadership of Pastor Tommy Barnett and Music Minister Jeff May.
It is mostly important for we drummers to prioritize our actions.
#1 Praise and worship our Father!
#2 Create a foundation and environment to usher the congregation AND our fellow band members into God's presence.
#3 Reflect the appropriate energy and emotion the Spirit and music (in THAT order) are calling for.
#4 Keep great time and GROOOVE!
#5 and finally... do ANYTHING necessary to facilitate the above priorities. Including playing in situations that are... let's just say... "Less than perfect" including being behind shields, in drum booths or even behind electronic drum kits EEEEEEwwww! (Really sometimes they're not all that bad.)Please feel free to contact me with ANY questions... from Acoustic drums to electronics and sound isolation... I would love to give any assistance possible. And oddly enough... most of my sound engineers have been my best friends. Yes... God IS all powerful and mighty! :-)
Bless you all & have a GREAT day!
Love,
Gary
Submitted by: Gary Lummer (the worship drummer)
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Date Added: 2002-12-14
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